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Negatives to nasal snuff?

tom502tom502 Posts: 2,520
edited March 2009 in General
I was just wondering if any of you had any negative aspects of nasal stuff that affect you any?

Mine arn't major at all. I love this stuff, and ever since my 1st time I did real nasal snuff, which was Jaxons Cherry Menthol, I can't remember when, I have not gone a single day without nasal snuff usage. This stuff is just so good.

Though what I find the most negative of it, is sometimes the outer of my nose gets slightly sore, not terribly, because the snuff often starts my nose to run a little, and I end up with a tissue in my hand alot, and wiping my nose. I would guess this happens to everyone. A few times before bed, I'd rub some skin lotion around the area.

And after a lot of snuffing, sometimes one has the urge to, uh, well, clean house, often with "digital insertion", and depending how vigorous one gets, that can irritate the nose a bit too, but then I'd think I'm not alone here too.

Other than these slight, and I do mean very slight occasional irritants, that's the only "negatives" I have had.

Tom502
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  • sandy130674sandy130674 Posts: 1,010
    I find that too much hardcore menthol snuff (e.g. Hedges L260 and JIP) during the day will cause a lot of nose run, particularly in cold weather, and this leads to a lot of nose wiping, which leads to irritated skin. I now make sure I take non-menthols for at least half the day.

    Dirty hankies. They need hand washing and soaking and my other half won't do it.

    That's about it.

    Compared with the feeling of slowly killing myself with cigarettes, I think they're quite minor.
    SgtJon
  • lemanleman Posts: 620
    After a few weeks of snuff use, the irritation from wiping and blowing my nose went away. I guess my nose just got used to it. I still have problems with my nose drying out occasionally, but nothing to stop snuffing over.
  • JarhogJarhog Posts: 633
    I like my hankies folded just so, so my minor down side is the time I takes to fold them.
    The_HPDerek_007
  • desirexedesirexe Posts: 178
    When I first started a few months ago, I would sniff and then wipe/blow immediately. The tip of my nose got extremely chapped and sore so I was constantly using chapstick on my nose! I couldn't figure out why I couldn't feel the nicotine, well duh..I was blowing it out right away before the snuff could work its charm! LMAO. I now only blow when it feels I need to do so and I no longer have a 'chapped' nose. YAY!!!
  • miamimarkmiamimark Posts: 962
    My nose ran alot and got chapped when i first started as well. It hasn't bothered me at all for a while. I assumed my nose had became more "seasoned" Recently, for the first time in a long time, I did some ozona, and my nose started running again.
    My main problem is waking up in the middle of the night with a very sour throat that makes me cough and almost gag. The same thing used to happen after drinking and smoking MANY cigs. It doesn't happen often and i'm sure I'm getting snuff in my throat due to improper technique.
    I also get muscle spasms in my leg, in the night. Again that's something that used to only happen after many beers! (I don't drink anymore) I know it has to do with dehydration, but I'm not sure if it's snuff related.
  • XanderXander Posts: 7,382
    @ Tom502: Try switching from paper tissues to cloth hankies, preferably soft cotton or silk. Once washed a few times they will be nice and soft. They are easy to find, and most of the online merchants carry a range. These are much better for wiping than paper. They are also more environmentally friendly since less bleached paper is ending up in the landfills. I only have a few right now, but will be getting more. You can't have too many, I think.

    @miamimark: Do you clean or use neti pot before bed? Also, I know its hard, but don't take a pinch before bed either. I did this for awhile, but I think its a bad idea. Also you might have sleep apnia, or might snore or breathe through your mouth when asleep. My wife started using Breathe Right strips as I couldn't stand to hear her breathing through her mouth. There are also chin straps on the market that will hold your jaw shut.

    @zzedo310: I was putting chapstick or vaseline or Norwegian formula in my nose too, but only before bed. This helped until my nose got seasoned. I had a bit of blood a few times in the first few weeks.

    My only negatives are the post nasal drip/drainage issue. I still haven't gotten this worked out. I guess I have to blow sooner than I want to. Also some snuffs are better than others in this regard.
  • The worst negative to this whole snuff thing is that I can't stop buying snuff! I want to try them all! And this forum and Snuffreviews.com don't help in the slightest, either. I was like this with other tobacco products; if I haven't tried 'em all, I've tried something alot like it! Eh, there are worse things I could be doing.
    OleFactoryHugh
  • JuxtaposerJuxtaposer Posts: 2,892
    My knit to pick is that using nasal snuff discourages me from smoking. I don't like to bother my cilia or dry out my sinuses by smoking. I loved to smoke my fine brier and meerschaum pipes and I do miss those occasional hookah sessions. The bong is put away in a cigar box. The cigars away I care not where. A perfectly rolled reefer waiting for months now to be sparked. This obsession with snuff is to blame. I would die without it now.
  • AbraxasAbraxas Posts: 5,439
    If I snuff too much I get a chapped nose and also a lot of congestion. But I just look at this in the same way as too many glasses of wine would give me a hangover and too many hamburgers make me fat. Snuff is just the same - you have to treat it with a bit of respect, like all luxury items. When I was a smoker, I chain smoked and got to the point where I hated most of the cigarettes I ever lit. Snuff is just too nice to destroy by over use. For the most part I take four or five grammes a day, really enjoy it and don't get any problems - more and it starts to get like the old cigarette syndrome. Abusing snuff can be just like abusing food, drink or smokes, IMHO. I've just done a really lousy night duty where I would have usually smoked like a chimney, a few pinches however and I was fine, so for me snuff is an important thing that I don't want to ruin.
    Jim
  • stitchstitch Posts: 485
    It has only taken over my brain. Although I am a pretty modererate user - a couple grams a day, at most - I have become obsessed with the world of snuff. Yes, I still chew, dip and smoke from time to time, but snuff has become the center of my tobacco world. And since I don't have the usual constraints of a wife and family to keep me grounded, things may have got a little out of hand. I spent countless hours on-line and otherwise researching this tobacco style. I have forked out hundreds of dollars on snuff, tobaccos and related in a couple years. I plunged into into growing, harvesting, curing, aging, grinding and flavoring my own snuff. I'm hoping a few truly excellent "Artisan Snuffs" could one day become available.
    The_HPOleFactoryHugh
  • sandy130674sandy130674 Posts: 1,010
    It sounds like you have a full time hobby stitch. Unless it is affecting you mentally or physically, I wouldn't worry about it. I'm very much the same about things, i.e. if an interest is worth doing, it's worth doing properly. No half measures.
    jevans406OleFactoryHugh
  • I got an ingrown nose hair for the first time. I don't want to point fingers but I never got one before I started snuffing. Wow was that annoying!
  • JuxtaposerJuxtaposer Posts: 2,892
    I'm with you, stitch. There's another letter in the mail with your address on it from Maui. Good luck with your garden. I have bunches of sprouts now myself, thanks. I'm looking forward to seeing the different tobacco's growing up and going to the little heaven I have in store for them.
    OleFactoryHugh
  • tom502tom502 Posts: 2,520
    It's taken over my brain too, in that I have really taken to this new hobby. I sit at the desk alot, and it has a drawer, and I have all my nasal snuffs in a flat plastic container. Snuffin' all day. But I don't see any negatives with it like this, it's not illegal, it's not big money, and it's relatively harmless healthwise, so I go for it.

    Tom502
    transistorscottofksuIvan
  • makinpsmakinps Posts: 56
    edited June 2012
    Dry weather + dry snuff = a sorry snout. Here in Palm Springs, caked (either by snuff or desert sand) and dessicated nostrils are no uncommon occurance. Even those benighted non-snuff users (the blameless and ignorant) frequently wind up with bloody noses due to the climate. Moister snuffs are easier, but still quickly dry out in the nose when it is 115+ in the shade and 10% humidity. A sinus rinse mornng and evening certainly helps. I may try a humidifier in the bedroom as well. Toasts for the Winter, medium moists for the Summer.
    Ricardus
  • AbraxasAbraxas Posts: 5,439
    Have you tried menthols like Hedges or McCrystals? A lot of users find them difficult because of the greatly increased nasal secretions you get with these types. Sounds like they are made for you though.
  • The only negative that comes to mind is the brown spots in and occasionally around my nose. And getting bitched at for that sort of thing.
  • tom502tom502 Posts: 2,520
    I must have done something wrong, as my post above is 3 years old, and now I can't snuff at all hardly. The moment I snuff, I get nasal drip, then sneezes, then I am clogged all day(and night, which makes it hard to breathe and sleep).
  • TheatreTheatre Posts: 174
    edited June 2012
    Yeah I saw that in the other thread. Are you using any medication? It's strange to build up a reaction to something after using it for so long, it's usually the other way round and that things calm down as you use them more.
  • howdydavehowdydave Posts: 1,505
    Laundering those bandanas full of caked on snuff can be a real pain sometimes!
  • HarlequinHarlequin Posts: 736
    I can't just run to the gas station and get a tin of good snuff when I run out. I can get scotches, yeah, but I get tired of smelling a campfire sometimes.
    transistor
  • bobbob Posts: 6,755
    only snuff users lose snuff
  • ScurvyScurvy Posts: 763
    My only negative so far is having to drive 30 miles one way for a 5g tin. And I live in the middle of nowhere, so even ordering online would take forever. :( 
  • transistortransistor Posts: 1,158
    It has only taken over my brain. Although I am a pretty modererate user - a couple grams a day, at most - I have become obsessed with the world of snuff. Yes, I still chew, dip and smoke from time to time, but snuff has become the center of my tobacco world. And since I don't have the usual constraints of a wife and family to keep me grounded, things may have got a little out of hand. I spent countless hours on-line and otherwise researching this tobacco style. I have forked out hundreds of dollars on snuff, tobaccos and related in a couple years. I plunged into into growing, harvesting, curing, aging, grinding and flavoring my own snuff. I'm hoping a few truly excellent "Artisan Snuffs" could one day become available.
    And a couple finally did!
    ABRAXAS! :)
  • basement_shamanbasement_shaman Posts: 7,195
    What @stitch said,  DITTO for me and the added addiction of snuff accessories -boxes ,spoons,bottles,bullets, memorabilia,and all snuff related items antique and current.  
  • peppernut1peppernut1 Posts: 186
    I get through a lot of tissues. Very messy, sitting at my desk. I worry that my closest colleagues are a bit offended. No big deal, I induldge anyway.
  • GeokGeok Posts: 48
    The main problem with snuff for me is plugged sinuses. Some sais that Hedges blows nose and solves the problem, another - neti pot. But for me it doesnt work at all. Menthol and aromatics are the cause, but how can I stop from a half of F&T rotation?!
  • The only problem I have experienced is in using SWEET snuff. It clogs up my nose!
    Considering that most sweet snuffs are sweetened with Honey crystals, you can just imagine what putting Honey up yer nose would do!
  • The only negative I have is making a decision, What to carry in the five boxes I use away from home. While at home I will read what in your nose and visit my horde and pull out some forgotten snuff for some winding down.
  • DogwallaDogwalla Posts: 942
    My problems are TAD and the fact that I'm too cheap to buy new hankies. All of mine are white, so I keep them out of sight from others unless they are freshly bleached. It's hard to get any colored hankies around here, so I may just have to stick with the white ones.
    DavidMac
  • DogwallaDogwalla Posts: 942
    @basement_shaman I never thought about tie dying them. That would be awesome!

    I like doing strange stuff at the office too: All black suit with bright orange/lime socks, inappropriate tie and shirt combinations, fish ties, etc.

    I'm heavily medicated and in marketing, so I can get away with it.
  • bobbob Posts: 6,755
    I got a bunch of cheap cheap colored hankies on amazon for practically nothing. Geography is no excuse!
  • Dogwalla said:

    All of mine are white, so I keep them out of sight from others unless they are freshly bleached. It's hard to get any colored hankies around here, so I may just have to stick with the white ones.

    I use the 18" Bandanas that come in Red or Blue Paisley. You can usually find them in most department stores in packs of 3. Fold them in quarters, then fold in thirds. Will fit nicely in yer back pocket and you'll have enough "snot rag" to last you all day. ;)
    bob
  • It has only taken over my brain. Although I am a pretty modererate user - a couple grams a day, at most - I have become obsessed with the world of snuff. Yes, I still chew, dip and smoke from time to time, but snuff has become the center of my tobacco world. And since I don't have the usual constraints of a wife and family to keep me grounded, things may have got a little out of hand. I spent countless hours on-line and otherwise researching this tobacco style. I have forked out hundreds of dollars on snuff, tobaccos and related in a couple years. I plunged into into growing, harvesting, curing, aging, grinding and flavoring my own snuff. I'm hoping a few truly excellent "Artisan Snuffs" could one day become available.
    And a couple finally did!
    ABRAXAS! :)
    Only a couple hundred? Not bad at all
  • saucy_jacksaucy_jack Posts: 773
    Nose cancer. That's a biggie. Or like coke abuse your nose can cave in. And it's like fertilizer for nostril hair. =))
  • n9inchnailsn9inchnails Posts: 3,188
    The overwhelming desire to buy more snuff
    crullersbasement_shaman
  • GSomsGSoms Posts: 45
    edited August 6
    that you can drop a cigarette and pick it up.. but drop your snuff, you're out of luck. also, the moments of embarrassment in public that come when you to like successively take enormous pinches.
  • JuxtaposerJuxtaposer Posts: 2,892
    I would have to say the biggest danger is addiction. Nicotine spikes can be very powerful with effective snuff use. Learning withdrawal symptoms can help even further with effectiveness. You can get on the train and not get off till it crashes! Other dangers would be unexpected reactions from ingredients in snuffs such as different tobacco types, molds, oils, strong herbals, etc. Exposure to children under eighteen can be the best way to perpetuate the future snuff culture! This I think is a negative as well.
  • howdydavehowdydave Posts: 1,505
    edited August 6
    Not since I started dressing entirely in black.

    The biggest negative is: PEER REACTION!
  • lunecatlunecat Posts: 9,807
    Can't think of any -ve points.

    Prices are good the pleasure is great, the premium snuffs are worth every penny.

    I suppose the addictive nature might be considered as a negative to some, but it doesn't bother me; even as a anti-smoker for the first 40 years of my life when I dicovered snuff - there wasn't any anti-tobacco thoughts at all.

    Tobacco is great, it is just smoking tobacco that is bad in my books.
    JakartaBoy
  • willcwillc Posts: 1,495
    The addiction factor doesn't bother me with snuff.
    There are times when I become so engrossed with what I am doing that I forget to snuff or snus and I don't have that maniacal crappy feeling that cigs gave me.
    I am the same way with coffee too, I like to drink it but I sometimes miss a day with no ill effects.
    periquesnuffywise
  • FriendlymanFriendlyman Posts: 108
    I am trying to figure out if its the snuff.
    I am on for while and off for a while snuffer but at times when I'm on I'm on until I get distracted and stop for a few months. But even when I'm off I'd snuff a few times here and there on a week end or when in the mood. Example: I found this red bull. I couldn't let go of it. But it took three months to finish two 7g packets.
    I have a feeling that snuff at times is playing with my nerves system. I feel like my stomach gets iregular. Like constipation etc. Dose this make sense? Is it to much nicotine?
  • crullerscrullers Posts: 828

    I feel like my stomach gets iregular. Like constipation etc. Dose this make sense? Is it to much nicotine?

    Too much nicotine tends to have the exact opposite effect.
    willcIvanJim
  • SgtJonSgtJon Posts: 277

    I am trying to figure out if its the snuff.
    I am on for while and off for a while snuffer but at times when I'm on I'm on until I get distracted and stop for a few months. But even when I'm off I'd snuff a few times here and there on a week end or when in the mood. Example: I found this red bull. I couldn't let go of it. But it took three months to finish two 7g packets.
    I have a feeling that snuff at times is playing with my nerves system. I feel like my stomach gets iregular. Like constipation etc. Dose this make sense? Is it to much nicotine?

    While nicotine, or anything for that matter effects everyone differently, as @crullers noted- it does tend to loosen things up a bit.

    As for your nervous system- yes, too much nicotine can give you jitters and the like.

    Individual consumption rates are just that- individual. Some may use +10g a day while others just take a small pinch after a meal. Don't measure yourself against anyone else. If you are comfortable with how much or how often you choose to use snuff, then you should be fine. The same should be said about the types, scents and brands of snuff you choose to use. What one person loathes may be your favorite- who is to say either one is "right" ?

    While I too had many of the same questions and dare I say trepidations when I rediscovered snuff, I found that after reading hundreds of questions and very cogent responses- the decision to use snuff is one I made. I find absolutely no negative consequences to using snuff. Is there possible health concern? absolutely, but I am ok with that. Are there social consequences? absolutely, but that too I am ok with.

    Just like anything else (drinking, gambling, chasing the opposite sex, driving fast or whatever makes you feel good) it is you who needs to gauge how much, how often and if by chance there is a negative to doing it, if you will continue or moderate it.
    willc
  • CigshurtmylungsCigshurtmylungs Posts: 380
    edited August 6
    Well I've done my first snuff yesterday felt like pepper and I enjoyed it.

    I have to admit though I sniffed a very tiny amount but had a ton of boogers plop out. However I'm still getting over cigs so as of right now it's the only minus and it may improve the farther I get from cigs and improve my technique.
    Made the mistake of not buying nasal spray first too
  • KentuckysnuffKentuckysnuff Posts: 366
    What did you take?
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